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FIRST result IN GAMING of the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

FIRST result IN GAMING of the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

We have the first result IN GAMING of the processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D In collaboration with @CapFrameX. First of all, this is a preview of the main review of the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D processor.

Yesterday we had the exclusive using some "synthetic" payloads (CBR23 is based on CINEMA4D, a real-life professional application) and today we have a small glimpse of what the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D will offer, which is expected much more performance by using its 3D V-CACHE technology.

Discharge: Wait for the full review and various assorted titles (an average of 10 games in 720p/1080p) before a final verdict. As I wrote, it is a small advance.

Before comparing results, we normally use our benchmarks at 1080p, but having constant communication with the CapFrameX developer, he asked me if it wouldn't be too much trouble to do the same benchmark he does on a particular title.

Since it's a new scene for me, between flashing games on the secondary SSD, it took us a good three hours to get consistent results.

Why is it also important to test in 720p for PROCESSORS?

The following part is taken directly from the blog entry of CapFrameX.

“No one plays at 720p…”

A common argument heard in discussions of this topic is: "Nobody plays 720p!" or “That's completely unreal! It could easily be countered by saying that you can't do real CPU testing with GPU influence.

This is impossible in principle, because in this case it is not a valid CPU test. Has the discussion ended? No, it's just starting. I've been thinking for a while about how I could summarize my experience in this type of discussion in a compact way. How about a list of pros and cons? Good idea let's go.

Con: Nobody plays at 720p!
Pro: If current Steam stats are anything to go by, 1080p is actually one of the most widely used resolutions in practice. For notebooks and APUs, 720p is, however, relevant. Scaling technologies like DLSS make the internal resolution lower than FHD. 

cons: This is completely unreal!
Pro: CPU tests don't have to be realistic at all, it's a ranking, which should reflect relative performance. To establish the benchmark to practice, the results of the CPU test must be combined with those of the GPU test. GPU tests are typically done at 1080p, 1440p, and 2160p. This means that it is known what the graphics card can do at the respective resolution. CPU tests with low resolution give information whether the CPU can do it too or not. Therefore, it is important that a very strong, preferably even an overclocked CPU with fast memory is used for GPU testing. Just like the CPU, the GPU should not be throttled. This is obvious.

cons: It should be enough if the fastest graphics card is combined with the lowest resolution used in practice. At the time of writing this is an RTX 2080 Ti and FHD resolution.
Pro: First of all, even the fastest graphics card available on the market leads to GPU limitations in 1080p and, on the other hand, it is not recognizable how many reserves the CPU has for stronger graphics cards or especially other configurations. 

cons: The performance of future games and hardware cannot be predicted.
Pro: I am always amazed at this argument against low resolution testing. Just look at the current games. These will continue to be played in the future, hopefully. If you upgrade your graphics card or just adjust the GPU settings, you will know whether the CPU can support it or not. This is a simple but very important principle of low resolution testing. Also, the gaming performance of today's CPUs with the same number of cores and the same memory speed may very well carry over into the future, if you don't overdo it. Development occurs with a certain inertia. Workloads don't completely differ over a one-year period, for example. Exceptions confirm the rule.

If you want to continue reading the rest of the article, we suggest you enter the whole note.

Our test bench – Ryzen 7 5800X3D

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard: X570 AORUS MASTER Rev 1.2 (BIOS F36c) (https://amzn.to/3ufHV6x)
RAM: G.Skill FlareX 4x8GB 3200MHz CL14 (Samsung B-Die) (https://amzn.to/3jbm5KX)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition
SSD: Samsung 980PRO 1TB (https://amzn.to/3udIVYQ)
SSD #2: Silicon Power A55 2TB (https://amzn.to/3NT4vtq)
Closed Loop Liquid Cooling: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (https://amzn.to/3LPebDd)
Power supply: EVGA SUPERNOVA 750W P2 (https://amzn.to/371dCaP)
Operating system: Windows 10 Home 21H2

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D in Shadow of the Tomb Raider (DX12 – 720p)

According to the date CapFrameX has given us from this same scene (we took the trouble to check the configuration well, as well as the test scene) the performance of the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, it would be until approximately 14-15% more compared to a 12900KS y 20-21% more than Intel Core i9-12900K.

Try gaming in 720p
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Custom settings – Low)

Processor

AVG FPS

Baseline

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

231

121.58%

Intel Core i9-12900KS

200 ~

105.26%

Intel Core i9-12900K/KF

190 ~

100%

The comparison is not apples to apples, but the system Intel has a RTX 3090 Ti, DDR5-4800C40 with the same benchmark configuration that we use.

CapFrameX Quote: “GPUs don't really matter at this low resolution, so it's very close to an apple-to-apple comparison. Very close ^^”

First impression – In IPC 3D V-CACHE does not bring improvements in single core, but GREATER CACHE makes up for it in gaming

It has taken us a few hours to reproduce reliable results using this scene in 720p. It's a first look at what will be shown in our final review of the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D processor. We'll do our typical benchmarks at 1080p Ultra, but we're considering adding 720p results and how the AMD processor fares with the Intel Core i9-12900KF (the only one we have on hand).

The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D does not bring almost any improvement in productivity to its "predecessor" but could perhaps be a last gift to gamers to give the final seal to the AM4 platform. Would it be too much to ask for a Ryzen 5 5600X3D?

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sdasd

this is awful journalism. first useless benchmarks and then this post showing us nothing of value.

sdasd

no one cares about anything but how the gaming benchmarks are going to look like this has been touted as being 15% faster than a 12900k is some games

sdasd

We want to see how it's going to perform as it we would use it. 1080p and 1440p. not 720p, we don't care

Ned flanders

@sdasd

You had a choice:

  1. Appreciate that someone performs tests on hardware you are interested in and publishes the results here free for you to visit. If you were missing sthg you could have given constructive suggestions
  2. Instead you choose to come here and be toxic and insult the author

Clearly bad choice

@XanxoGaming

here's some appreciation!

sdasd

appreciate what? they showed us one benchmark that shows us nothing about how it performs as a normal user would fucking use it. 

compvter

Yea, hopefully no-one is going to use this with current games at 720p. But at the same time you should realize that when you shift resolution higher you are starting to be bottle-necked by GPU. If he could only run these tests, I am glad that he did it with lower resolution. This means the processor was tested and not GPU. Obviously if GPU is limiting fps, having CPU from 10 years from the future wont increase fps by 15%.

I still wouldn't buy this CPU based on this bench, since it doesn't really show how many games benefit from increased cache, anything that does not, will run slower than with base 5800X. Workloads that can use all cores of 5900 (which I believe is cheaper) are going to benefit more from that.

sdasd

this cpu is touted as being better than a 12900k IN GAMING. that has been this cpu's whole ordeal and them showing us how it performs in 720 to show if it can bottleneck a gpu is useless. Real world results as a user would use them. Are you going to review a car and not drive it??

i get why they do the benchmarks, but this very site has even said 720p benchmarks are pointless and now because they have info the world wants they've gone dark with it. it's asinine 

sdasd

i find it hilarious that releasing a single benchmark after 24 hours isn't considered terrible journalism and you morons downvote me even though I'm 100% correct 

JohnDoe

It's called a “leak” sweetheart. This is not a full blown review as mentioned in the article.
Might want to learn to read before going into a firing row of angry posts.

Also they are testing the capabilities on the cpu by removing any other limitations.
If you were CURRENTLY interested in tech and not acting like a fanboy, you would know.

sdasd

hey guys, I'm a fan boy because after 48 hours these hacks still haven't released benchmarks. 

imagine defending some jackasses dangling a worm on a hook in front of the world instead of just releasing the benchmarks that literally only take less than a day to complete. even on my own i could have already released an entire suite of benchmarks comparing it to at least 15 other cpu's and how it scales with various video cards.

Last edited 2 years ago by sdasd
IanC

CapX's own 12900k+DDR5 6400 benchmark shows it doing 220+ FPS, but they used a much slower DDR5 kit for this review, making the 12900k and 12900ks seem slower.

Wait for better reviewers to review the 5800x3D, this is already a mess and they've only tested one game.

DTR

Actually full retard human garbage, they literally could've (and should have) used the exact same RAM and GPU, for both chips.

Team

Nothing wrong with using “slower” DDR5 when most people still using DDR4.

sdasd

except the fact it's slower than ddr4 ram. they could literally use a board that uses ddr4 and use the same sticks of memory for both systems to eliminate favoring altogether

H360

Waiting for the Esport titles and some BR titles, it looks really good reminds me of the legendary 5770C, good job xanxo

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Hector B

You have to be disabled to put these benches at 720, they get the smoke going to their heads for filtering some results and now this...

Last edited 2 years ago by Héctor B

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